SINCE I DON’T REALLY CARE IF YOU READ MY BLOG…..
THE ROMNEY HUCKABEE FLAP
WHY APOLOGIZE ? THEY DO BELIEVE THAT.
Huckabee and Romney are going to the mat over his Mormon beliefs. Oh, it’s tasty, because WingNutDaily used this to move in for the fundie kill. Tee hee.
Satan has reared his ugly head in the 2008 presidential campaign – literally.
Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee has prompted angry denunciations of religious bigotry by rival Mitt Romney as well as an official retort from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for speculating in a New York Times Magazine interview this weekend that Mormons believe Jesus and Satan were brothers.
Stirred by the debate, the Associated Press sought clarification from Kim Farah, a spokeswoman from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
She said the question is usually raised by those who wish to smear the Mormon faith, but she evaded a direct answer to the question: “We believe, as other Christians believe and as Paul wrote, that God is the father of all. That means that all beings were created by God and are his spirit children. Christ, on the other hand, was the only begotten in the flesh and we worship him as the son of God and the savior of mankind. Satan is the exact opposite of who Christ is and what he stands for.”
More to the point, the official website of the LDS church explicitly makes the sibling connection between Jesus and Lucifer a matter of official Mormon doctrine.
Perhaps Satan is running the Romney campaign. Take a look at this, and protect your keyboards. (via Sully, h/t oddjob).
Voters of Iowa, Mitt Romney is desperate to let you know that when it comes to family values, he’s the family value-est. Both Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee are in favor of a constitutional amendment to only allow normal people to get married, but did you know that only Mitt Romney raised the stakes and now wants the amendment to say that only heterosexual couples have the right to own property, to vote, or to have the latest cool gadgets. You may have heard that Mitt Romney supported gay marriage when he was the governor of Massachusetts, but that means that only Mitt Romney knows how gay marriage has devastated that state. The streets are filled with orphans in Massachusetts, and giant rats feed on the flesh of the few remaining survivors. Mitt Romney is opposed to giant gay flesh eating rats, Mike Huckabee loves them.
And that thing Mike Huckabee wanted to do — putting AIDS patients in camps — Mitt Romney would go one better…not just rounding up atheists, but also using waterboarding to see who’s a believer and who isn’t.
Mitt Romney…you used to like him.
Pam Spaulding blogs at Pam’s House Blend.
I FEEL A PULL TO CHIME IN AT THIS POINT
It is true that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers. You have a hard time with that because you have come to worhip a book that put you in a tidy little box, without a key. Believe the box, stay in the box.
Here’s the jist….The Mormon God is a Supernatural being. If I reveal the name, you might pass out. The same being that has quite a HOLOGRAM in store for humanity in the next 5 to 10 years. Wait till you see this SECOND CHRIST. It’s called the Second Coming. But, it’s really THE SECOND CHRIST? Why? Well, that is a whole nother blog about the Poor Soldiers For Christ, and the stone being rolled away, and the securing of Jesus’s body (skull and bones) and the impregnation of Magdalene, and the Son she birthed whose bloodline is —-well, I don’t want to confuse you more. There are a couple of things you need to know first. Gosh, I am exhausted trying to wake people.
I know, this is not what people are taught. People….until you RELEASE everything you have been told about GENESIS- and get with some new info, you will be stuck here in this place FOREVER. As in TO RA H (the H is #8 and the number 8 on it’s side is infinity). I need to move faster.
The Bible is well – kind of like a movie script – in many ways. If you don’t believe in scientific principals, then move along now. There is no such thing as time -in truth. Google it.
Jesus was not created by a loving God. Jesus was created by a supernatural being – not of love. Jesus knew this. That is why this statement:FORGIVE THEM FATHER – THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO. The supernaturals are the same Gods the ancient Greeks worshipped. You know, Athena, Zeus, Posiedon, Apollo, etc….. and the Egyptians drew pcitures of space ships on their rocks. Did you know that? Anyway – parting the red sea is child’s play to these beings.
Can you even imagine that there is life – so far advanced that they could make the earth quake and the floods come? No? Your mom is calling you. I’ll meet up with you later. Way.
Jesus was created for GENE ISIS, and placed here to be a product of money, war, separation and other pleasantries. Look how smart his Creator is – IT WORKED !!! The supernaturals (numerically) have ties to a couple of religions. Big ties. I won’t name them, for you might pass out. No one should be surprised really.
Now, here’s the deal. The Gene Isis folks created every single living thing in it’s physical form.Are you still there?
GOD DOESN’T BUILD HUMAN BODIES. GOD IS NOT A HUMAN BODY. GOD IS NOT A FORM. GOD IS NOT DEFINABLE IN MY VIEW EXCEPT TO SAY THAT THE GRACE OF LOVE EXISTS IN THE ALL.
SO, THE SUPERNATURALS CREATED LUCIFER AND THEY CREATED JESUS. BUT YOU ARE STUCK ON THE IDEA OF THE BIBLE RENDITION AND THIS IS WHERE YOU GET HUNG UP ON OLD BRANCHES. IT ISN’T SO. SORRY.
BUT, SEE, THERE ARE SOME RELIGIONS THAT KNOW THIS- WITH A CAPITAL K.
if ya catch my drift.
YOU’RE AN EVOLUTIONARY MARVEL
THANK THE SINGLE CELLED ORGANISM
(created by the Supernaturals)
Do you think the ET’s are buzzin the planetjust for fun ??? Please.(my opinion only, based on the numbers and other stuff)
TIME TO WAKE UPTIME TO GROW UP
So, The Mormons are correct. JESUS AND LUCIFER ARE BROTHERS.
LA DEE DA
IS THERE A GOD – SURE, WHY NOT. I DO BELIEVE IN THE JESUS THAT WOKE THE HELL UP AND TAUGHT US WHAT LOVE IS – THANK GOD. BUT, THERE’S A LOT YOU DON’T KNOW MY FRIEND. YOU CN BELIEVE IN THE LOVE AND LIGHT OF JESUS, BUT PLEASE DO SO FROM KNOWLEDGE. THE SAME KNOWLEDGE OTHERS HAVE, BUT HAVE HIDDEN FROM YOU.
WISH I HAD MORE TIME TO EXPLAIN, BUT I DON’T. I GOT LAUNDRY.
OH AND THIS:
Lawrence O’Donnell Was Right About Mormonism
Watching “The McLaughlin Group” on Sunday, I was impressed by Lawrence O’Donnell’s fearless attack on the origins of Mormonism. I was also surprised to read Jason Linkins’ piece, on this very blog, criticizing O’Donnell for a “radical assault on Mormonism” and claiming that he “lost his mind.” Linkins seems shocked that someone would be so angry, but I totally understand O’Donnell – racism makes me angry too.
What Linkins completely fails to address is that nothing O’Donnell said about the Mormon faith is incorrect. Let’s break down his statements:
…this man stood there and said to you “this is the faith of my fathers.” And you, and none of these commentators who liked this speech realized that the faith of his fathers is a racist faith. As of 1978 it was an officially racist faith, and for political convenience in 1978 it switched. And it said “OK, black people can be in this church.” He believes, if he believes the faith of his fathers, that black people are black because in heaven they turned away from God, in this demented, Scientology-like notion of what was going on in heaven before the creation of the earth.
None of this is inaccurate. It was assumed that “blacks inherited the curse of Ham and the curse of Cain” and it wasn’t until a “divine revelation” in 1978 by LDS Church President Spencer Kimball that they were allowed to be full members of the Mormon church. Mitt Romney was thirty-one years old in 1978; he’s been a practicing Mormon all his life (“My faith is the faith of my fathers – I will be true to them and to my beliefs” is what he declared last week), so either he’s lying about his commitment to his faith, or he believed this racist nonsense for the first 31 years of his life. What’s more, Wikipedia tells us that in the mid-1960s, a full decade before Mormonism’s divine racial correction in 1978, “Romney served in France for 30 months as a missionary for LDS Church.” As a missionary for the Mormon faith, did Romney fully buy into Mormon doctrine of that time? These are highly pertinent questions for a man who wishes to lead a multiracial United States.
O’Donnell then goes on to claim that Mormonism was founded by a “fraudulent criminal.” He’s right, of course. Joseph Smith, Jr. was the charlatan who founded Mormonism; he’s also a child molester by today’s standards (his thirty-plus wives included seven minors: two 14-year-olds, two 16-year-olds and three 17-year-olds). The story of Smith’s “revelation” is so bizarre and silly that I won’t repeat it; you’d think I was making it up. You can read it all here, as told by Christopher Hitchens, if you have any interest in wading through all the revelations and counter-revelations, angels, gold tablets, and the true origin of Native Americans according to Mormonism (their account of Native American history, incidentally, is yet another horrifying facet of the Mormon doctrine of white supremacy).
Mormons were fairly pro-slavery, with one of their founding members quoted as saying “You must not think, from what I say, that I am opposed to slavery. No! The negro is damned, and is to serve his master till God chooses to remove the curse of Ham…” Those were the words of Brigham Young, who incidentally has a college named after him in Utah, which incidentally graduated a certain Mitt Romney in 1971.
I’ll resist dredging further into the swampland of Mormon doctrine; I personally think debating religious doctrine is sort of like trying to decide whether Tim Burton’s Batman or Chris Nolan’s Batman Begins gets closer to the truth of Batman’s “actual origins.” (The answer is obviously the latter.)
I don’t understand Linkins’ desire to defend a church with such a sordid history, a history that was at odds with our vision of American justice and equality as recently as 1978. Their beliefs make me as angry as O’Donnell was, and I’m glad he was gutsy enough to say what he said.
Finally, Linkins ludicrously wonders how O’Donnell gets along with the writers of HBO’s Big Love, a show on which O’Donnell plays a recurring role. Since the show itself has probably informed O’Donnell’s views, I doubt he’ll be “giving up his role” on the show because of them. Anyway, I would assume that he gets along with the Big Love folks just as well as people who think the mafia isn’t a good thing would get along with the team behind The Sopranos: in other words, just fine.
(Correction: Linkins has pointed out to me in an e-mail that he went “out of [his] way” to point out what O’Donnell said about the Mormon faith was correct. By “I go out of my way” he means a single sentence and a link. Linkins’ correction actually makes my case. The infuriating thing about his post was that he acknowledged that what O’Donnell said was correct. He apparently just didn’t like O’Donnell’s strident tone (pretty odd objection from a fellow political blogger, I must say). Case in point: the title of Linkins’ post was “Lawrence O’Donnell Loses His Ever-Loving Mind on McLaughlin”. Linkins’ correction perfectly demonstrates that his post was an unwarranted, unfair hit piece on a guy who was telling the truth.)
(Thanks to Joe Drymala for contributing to this post.)
Ryan is a freelance theater and film director in New York City. He’s worked in the media departments of Mark Green and Howard Dean.
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